How to Simplify Persuasion With Marketing Ju-Jitsu

How to Simplify Persuasion With Marketing Ju-Jitsu

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  1. Or which is easier

    PC users —> to buy a MAC
    PC users —> to buy ipod/iphone

    much easier to buy the small item first, then go in for the kill once they’re customers 🙂

  2. A very good article. You have an excellent grasp of this martial arts concept and one that I had not considered in this context. Very enlightening, thanks!

  3. Good stuff. It is much easier to build upon what already exists instead of tearing down and starting over with something entirely new.

    I guess we resent the pains of a wrecking ball but love the joy from a well placed accent piece.

  4. Tai Chi is a kind of kung fu and do exactly the same thing. you apply the forces of your opponent and redirect it back to it.

  5. “The courage to annoy or alienate those who are not your prospects.”

    When you say this, are you meaning, exclude by merely “de- targeting” them, or actually doing something that is more, confrontational and/or hostile?

  6. Apple fanboys have a common enemy: Microsoft. In politics, marketing to your constituents involves rallying against your common enemy: the other party.

    I listened to a phone interview between Frank Kern and Clayton Makepeace where Clayton spoke about creating a common enemy out of the head of the Federal Reserve to sell stock-trading info products and it worked like a dream.

    I’ve toyed with this idea and was amazed at how well it worked. But I think the real courage comes in when the “enemy” decides they want to poke back.

  7. We’re talking about that in triiibes, too–part of what makes many tribes is “we’re not them.” That’s a technique to be used with a lot of thought & care about the ethics, but it has a place. And as Michael said, it works amazingly well.

    My problem is usually that I think the enemy has a potentially valid point of view. It would be useful for me to get over that, but I don’t know if it’s going to happen.

    I like the idea of thinking of buying desire as chi, to be gathered and directed. I just hope Brian doesn’t start referring to James, Jon & I as “Grasshopper.”

  8. I have that same problem Sonia, I can usually see how someone else’s point can have validity too.

    Hmm. Rallying. Michael, now I have to go back over my client list and see who we could possibly be rallying against.

    “buying desire as chi”- love that.

  9. I confess I was totally lost until this point:

    1. Convince Mac users to switch to a PC.
    2. Convince Mac users to buy an iPhone.

    Couldn’t agree more (2), much easier to sell a new beer brand to a beer guy than trying to convince him to have a bourbon.

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  11. Sonia, Janice, another point of view doesn’t have to be your “enemy”. You are really both just one. Part of the great universal chi, yin – yang, white – black, Mac – PC…

    The other point of view doesn’t have to be invalid, just different. Thanks to this difference you can

    Endless invalidation of your “opponent’s” point of view just leads to politics.

  12. Thanks Gary for highlighting that post. It is one of my favorites. I see what you are saying.

    “Naturally alienating”, aligning…is more about differentiation than becoming ” hostile”… I can do that…

    well, unless someone is just flat out wrong…:)

    I would like to see something about that, sometimes confrontation happens. We’ve seen it in action. Since the art of debate is so lost in public, political life…it woud be fun to see some “rules of engagement” brought back to light.

  13. Civil, courteous debate and disagreement with ‘rules of engagement’ requires us to 1. know something about the issue and 2. have less soft thinking and acknowledgment of our position on that issue after we know about it.

  14. 1. Convince Mac users to switch to a PC.
    2. Convince Mac users to buy an iPhone.

    There are many PC users who have Ipod and intending to buy iPhone.

  15. I have seen some “debates” here. They have been interesting. Especially when backed up with value added facts. I think there is a difference, maybe only in my mind, between controversial and enlarging.

    I am curious because if we are good at our ju jitsu, you know that opens us up for attack.

  16. Both can be quite entertaining and enlightening. Sometimes my opinion/mind is the one that will change.

    I have seen where a ‘wrong’ position is the one that helps launch the research for a better one, but only after controversy. The wrong idea, program or project had a useful purpose be stimulating the rabble to rise against it AND find different solutions.

    A journalist friend used to protest being named a ‘rabble rouser’, but I encouraged her, because I think the rabble must be “roused” and aware. Or they risk dozing through opportunity.

    I love a good discussion; am soon bored with immature flaming and have aged on the Internet long enough to recognize the difference (usually).

  17. Yes, rabble must be roused. Brings the whole thing forward.

    Ackroyd’s, “Jane you ignorant slut” SNL debates just popped into my head.

    I am off to look at those …in the name of research…of course. 🙂

  18. Excuse me for particpating in thread piracy, but if you are an SNL fan, we can’t get on the opposite side enough to have a sensible debate! It’s hard to discuss things when laughing.

  19. Nicely written! Your tips are priceless. I have been preaching this for a quite a bit though it’s kind of self-contradictory since I’m trying to convince clueless marketer to change his way instead of letting him continue selling Macs to PC users.

  20. Brian …

    another enlightening post!

    As we all know, copywriting is salesmanship in print (online too).

    And, ever since the very first person tried to convince another to do/buy something — or to think ‘my way’ –the smart person would provide benefits that played into his pre-existing beliefs/values.

    Our job is not to discern what is true or real or worthy … but just to psychoanalyze our victim (humm, I mean audience) and present accordingly, right?

    So, aren’t we really psychological masters who prey on unsuspecting victims to trick them into buying … because we convince them that we think, feel or believe the way they do?

    Maybe we firmly believe there is no right/wrong. That beliefs are like belly buttons — everybody has one — and they’re all so very subjective and meaningless, really, that it doesn’t matter if we prey on their gullibility?

    Or, do we really care? Do we genuinely want to get into their heads and hearts to deeply ‘understand’ them, so we can simply explain the virtues of any given product or service we’re trying to sell?

    Probably not.



  21. I like your co-relation regarding persuasion marketing and martial arts analogy Ju-Jitsu.

    Let me explain what I mean, when you think about effective marketing, you can focus on the mechanics and techniques of the sales process by identifying needs and handling objections.

  22. From my viewpoint, the principle of Ju-Jitsu is more akin to tricking the customer into giving up their money.

    What we really want is to start by following the customer’s lead, and then finally extend them a little farther than they originally intended to go (i.e. into a purchase). This is Marketing Tai Chi!

  23. Great post.

    It took me a long time to develop “the courage to annoy or alienate those who are not your prospects.” When someone unsubscribed from my lists, I used to struggle to avoid taking it personally. It actually used to ruin my day if someone canceled their membership or unsubscribed from my lists, even if it was 6-7 months down the road.

  24. A very good article. You have an excellent grasp of this martial arts concept and one that I had not considered in this context. Very enlightening, thanks!

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